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ronnie the pommys diary using common law
#41
Posted 26 January 2015 - 16:56
Thank you Ronnie
so I guess the biggy is what's next? What's LN got up his sleeve now?
#42
Posted 26 January 2015 - 17:05
#43
Posted 27 January 2015 - 19:19
LN has written a second notice stating I did not require them accept the notice, just to state if anything was incorrect on our notice and as they showed no evidence that it was incorrect, the notice will stand as correct.
There is also a load more facts for them in this notice that will make it pretty much impossible to stand in our way any more.
There is also a fee schedule for any correspondence verbal or written that the council has with us after the next seven days has elapsed following this latest notice being sent. This is a nice change after they have cost us a small fortune over the last 6 years, we are hoping that they do want to correspond with us so we can get some of our money back
We will be sending this notice to them in the next couple of days so I will keep you all posted about it.
#44
Posted 27 January 2015 - 19:41
#45
Posted 27 January 2015 - 19:49
They probably don't like it but that is irrelevant, I don't think they will ever like it but what was in the notice was fact and they can't argue a fact.
#46
Posted 27 January 2015 - 21:59
work it into them Ronnie they don t like facts atb top
#47
Posted 27 January 2015 - 22:04
I've read quite a few threads by people using common law on other forums and they mostly end up in prison. Having said that, they all sounded like complete nut cases so I'm personally quite interested to see what happens when normal people try it.
The problem is that the world isn't fair and simply stating facts won't always get you your own way. I guess you either play the game or you fight the system. If there's no chance of winning the game and you can't give up then I guess fighting is the only thing left to do.
It is a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go through all of this. Surely they could come up with a better system that mitigates the issue of people wanting to make a fast buck by building houses in picturesque spots but that allows for a bit of smallholding.
#48
Posted 27 January 2015 - 23:59
I've read quite a few threads by people using common law on other forums and they mostly end up in prison. Having said that, they all sounded like complete nut cases so I'm personally quite interested to see what happens when normal people try it.
The problem is that the world isn't fair and simply stating facts won't always get you your own way. I guess you either play the game or you fight the system. If there's no chance of winning the game and you can't give up then I guess fighting is the only thing left to do.
It is a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go through all of this. Surely they could come up with a better system that mitigates the issue of people wanting to make a fast buck by building houses in picturesque spots but that allows for a bit of smallholding.
I don't think we have the planning laws to protect the countryside or to stop developers from making money.
From my own research the 1947 town and country planning act is just a continuation of the spirit of the old enclosure acts.
Our ruling elite have deduced that if people had their own smallholdings , then they would be too independant and not be in a position to be exploited by factory owners and big business.
When you have land and can make a living you wonder why you didn't do it before. But it does require a bit of 'nerve'. Especially doing the ftf route. They despise people attempting to leave the system, because they can't be milked easily anymore.
#49
Posted 28 January 2015 - 07:39
Question
If quadzilla get the permission to Frack in lancashire if they find it how do they get the pipe work infrastructure in ?
Compulsary purchase ?
Or is that already agreed with landowners ?
#50
Guest_lumpnuggin_*
Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:32
I feel a bit like Cameron and Brown on the televised debates.... I agree with BoiowI don't think we have the planning laws to protect the countryside or to stop developers from making money.
From my own research the 1947 town and country planning act is just a continuation of the spirit of the old enclosure acts.
Our ruling elite have deduced that if people had their own smallholdings , then they would be too independant and not be in a position to be exploited by factory owners and big business.
When you have land and can make a living you wonder why you didn't do it before. But it does require a bit of 'nerve'. Especially doing the ftf route. They despise people attempting to leave the system, because they can't be milked easily anymore.
#51
Guest_lumpnuggin_*
Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:35
That may well happen if you don't know what you are doing or the capacity you are operating in. Sadly very few do. I've been to court with other members here (magistrates and crown) and have out this stuff to the test in the arena it matters most. All turned out very nicely. Nobody here will be going to prison OR be found guilty of ANYTHING.... After all... What's anyone done wrong? Live on their own property and earn a living... Someone tell me if that's wrong?.....
[more to the point a judge can't either if it's handled correctly]
#52
Guest_lumpnuggin_*
Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:38
Most likely compulsory purchase, however nobody can be forced to sell their land if you are operating in the correct capacity.... See my dissected documents for the answers
#53
Guest_lumpnuggin_*
Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:51
I've been on, and seen some of these common law forums. Most people might have an idea or good grasp of it but can't articulate the paperwork properly or have a clue how to defend yourself in court. If the paperwok is done properly from the outset, court is much much less likely. I disagree to a point where you say stating facts won't always get your way. ... I put it like this.... I can't necessarily stop someone punching me in the face, however once that someone has done that they are liable for their actions. We set out very clearly with various councils the position. If said council STILL wants to proceed they're liable. Tey soon understand, they're on a learning curve tooThe problem is that the world isn't fair and simply stating facts won't always get you your own way. I guess you either play the game or you fight the system.
It is a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go through all of this. Surely they could come up with a better system that mitigates the issue of people wanting to make a fast buck by building houses in picturesque spots but that allows for a bit of smallholding.
Your other point about making a fast buck....
By the very fact that individuals can build their own dream house where they wish on their own property; by definition means there's no fast bucks to be earned anymore. Why pay big money for someone else's dream house? Build your own
#54
Posted 28 January 2015 - 09:05
Question
If quadzilla get the permission to Frack in lancashire if they find it how do they get the pipe work infrastructure in ?
Compulsary purchase ?
Or is that already agreed with landowners ?
In the case of 'fracking' I think they make it very worthwhile financially for the landowner. In the case of HS2 i think it's compulsory purchase.
Although . If the price of oil stays under $50 a barrel, they might not continue with fracking.
#55
Posted 28 January 2015 - 18:40
#56
Posted 29 January 2015 - 15:10
I have just been to the solicitors today to have my second notice sworn under oath and then photocopied. I then sent the photocopied notice by special delivery to the council, they should get it by 1pm tomorrow.
#57
Guest_lumpnuggin_*
Posted 30 January 2015 - 02:47
I think it cost Ronnie under a tenner and you get a nice official looking stamp on your paperwok that a court must take notice of.
The earlier you act the cheaper and less stressful it is to do.
If you're at or approaching Court stage we are in a battle against 2 adversaries that are on the same team and against YOU
You'll still win but it's more testing.
#58
Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:56
The solicitors appointment cost me a whole £5 yesterday so well worth doing.
#59
Posted 30 January 2015 - 11:50
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When Ronnie & LN appeared on here and started telling it as it is and therefore educating us big-time, I thought to myself 'Ay up--this sounds VERY interesting'....
As stated,facts is facts. I've had no respect for 'authority'(councils/police/government etc) (for various reasons) for many years, as they are simply out there to control & exploit us common oiks. There is no 'justice' as commonly believed. The 'planning system' is a tool of the landed gentry/ ruling classes to control the little man, who you may have figured by now is worth nowt!
Power should be reclaimed by all lawful means, to control ones' own lawful existence. Power to yer elbow...
#60
Posted 30 January 2015 - 20:08
Chris1, you are so right. All these authorities are not there to help us the common people but to control us. The f2f way probably does work for some people but by all means not all, if the council takes a dislike to you or you have a load of yuppy incomer neighbours who suck up to the council, the council will do ANYTHING to stop you however corrupt it may be as they are very good at hiding evidence of their corruption. They are also very much in with planning inspectors as they are all government owned so back each other up.
This is why after six and a half years of getting nowhere with our farm, we decided to go down this route with LNs help.
I am certain this will get us where we want to be with our farm so I am very keen to write about it here as things happen. We will probably hear more from our council once we start moving back onto the land, but we have now covered ourselves with the notices so the council will be liable from now on if they interfere.
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