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[greenmeadow]

Hi,

I see from recent posts that mushrooms might meet the functional need. Are there any other horticultural businesses that would qualify as a main enterprise?

Greenmeadow

[Piglet]

Hi,

I see from recent posts that mushrooms might meet the functional need. Are there any other horticultural businesses that would qualify as a main enterprise?

Greenmeadow

It seems that horticultural businesses struggle to meet the functional need for the neccessity to live on site - you could try googling the key words as I have just done and it throws up some interesting situations - it seems that other horticultural businesses have come up against this problem and have tried to get around it by having livestock based sidelines. Piglet.

[Piglet]

Hi,

I see from recent posts that mushrooms might meet the functional need. Are there any other horticultural businesses that would qualify as a main enterprise?

Greenmeadow

I do know of one horticultural business which managed to obtain permission - it would probably depend on the size of the business. They are growing organic vegetables and have shop and cafe. The fact that they have 3 polytunnels probably helps towards functional need because of the early morning and late evening closing and opening of the doors and the frost factor.

[Cornish Gems]

Hi - we were under the impression that qualifying enterprises were touched upon in Dave's books.

We have it on very good authority though that blueberries do NOT meet the criteria for functional need. An application for a temporary dwelling on a blueberry plantation was turned down with the words, 'No functional need', and there was the same result upon appeal.

Cornish Gems

[che]

Hi all.

This is an interesting one planners turned it down and also lost on appeal but elected councillors changed the enforcement terms.


http://www.southwest...il/article.html

Moral never give up and persue EVERY channel.

Dave C

[Groundhog]

Read somewhere a case won on appeal I think for a vineyard reasons given for functional need were High set up cost and extreme risk especially in the first few years of preditation from deer ,frost damage,and the need for spraying at key times in the day when temp and wind conditions are optimumn ie 5am 10pm. Think that falls more into seasonal but could be combined with others.
Dave C think that is the first case I have seen that has put a time frame ie 2 years to comply with an enforcement notice,they have effectively achieved Temp Dwelling ! I wonder if they are paying council tax after that decision ?
Cornish "Never Say Never" if you are to establish your "Unique High Value in High Demand extremely difficult to produce without high labour input which results in a High value Blueberry crop from Cornwall which you have a demand for both locally and in a Covent Garden deli etc etc etc I think a static is essential.
"I Must Not Say Never" x 100 and I wont tell you again

is a bit of a long shot mind !

[che]

Hi Groundhog,

This looks like the case.

http://wincdev.web-l...0698-Item05.pdf

Dave C

[Groundhog]

Hi Groundhog,

This looks like the case.

http://wincdev.web-l...0698-Item05.pdf

Dave C

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[Romany]

Is there anything you cant find ? Tip on the Lotto numbers would be nice

hear hear! (how's about the Euro lottery whilst you're at it... )

Romany

[che]

This one looks good will post in planning cases as well
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http://www.warwicksh...f9?OpenDocument


Still working on lottery numbers but will not be posting them till after the draw

[che]

Interesting press release from ACORUS re functional need.

http://www.acorus.co...ilehome_000.pdf

[che]

Excellent example of submission forAWD for nursery/plant propagation includes year round growing scheme.

http://localportal.b...ImageName=23719

[che]

Thurrock have a differet view could make for an interesting appeal.
http://democracy.thu...?Document=16139

[che]

A chilli farm

http://www.thisiswes...il/article.html

[che]

Thurrock have a differet view could make for an interesting appeal.
http://democracy.thu...?Document=16139

Interesting article on this case where planners ask councillors not to apply common sense to planning decisions. I take it that they think planning legislation does not make sense.
Or in other words yuou may be elected but we want the power.

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