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[happymanoftheworld]

Hi - stil living under "temporary" and still "battling" with "they that must be obeyed"........ now 9 years and 9 months on site but only 3.4 years in cabin and things coming to a head..... but I digress. I need advice from someone more knowledgeable than I OR "been there, done it, etc."

 

I have a borehole supply. No tank. I want to have some sort of switch that turns the underground borehole water pump on whenever ----

 

A/ I turn the insidecoldd water tap on;

 

B/ The central heating boiler needs  topping up;

 

C/ The immersion heater is emptied during bath;

 

E/ The cattle troughs float drops;

and

F/ When I use the stand pipe for filling stable buckets.

 

So...... I know I would need some sort of switch between the pump and the junction for all these off shoot pipes...... but I am thinking that if there is some sort of switch that turns on the pump when I turn on the water tap or the trough flow kicks in..... when it switches off the water will fall back down the pump vertical tube meaning there is no pressure to kick start the switch. I know that is confusing but perhaps someone else (a wordsmith ---- is Dave C still around?) can explain better. Thanks in anticipation. Have a GREAT day!!!

[boiow]

Long time no see.

   I think you need one of these http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2595031fdf   for mains voltage.    or one of these  http://www.ebay.co.u...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

   for 12v systems.

[shepie]

Can't you put a talk in so the borehole pump fills it via a float switch in the tank then gravity feed all your supplies
The only issue will be the heating is it closed system with filling loop or vented ?

[happymanoftheworld]

I have to say thank you for advice both of you. I have looked at ebay link and through that contacted the company. The guy in charge was excellent and spent quite a while advising me how to do it....... it seems I need a pressure vessel! (My blood pressure control?) as well as the switch. Anyway good result.

Paul Williams is the Operations Manager Penstar which uses a different name on ebay. 01239 841458. He is excellent.

 

I didn't use the other route because I didn't really want to store water in a tank.... to be honest that was originally the way I was going to do it.

 

So thanks again both ----- the water board think they will be fitting a water meter according to their letter.... Ho-ho!

[adrian007]

water meter on a borehole? I thought that was the object of having a borehole - free water?

 

Or are they saying you use more than 20m3 a day?

[happymanoftheworld]

Ha Lamb - I see I confused you..... when the property was split up and sold separately I bought 20+ acres and barns. The "splitterupperer" installed  a connector to supply all properties from one ingoing main. Ten years on the water company are definitely NOT happy as they know there is a reduced pressure but can't figure out why. Meanwhile the assessors came round a couple of years ago and decided to rate me as a business. The water company has just realised "AHA!" A business which needs water but has no supply.... we need to investigate and find out where his water supply is coming from and fit the meter!!!)" Of COURSE I have NO idea where my water is coming from.

 

Now, anticipating something like this, ten years ago I had a borehole drilled 40 metres down, tried the pump once but couldn't be a***d buying all the pressure tanks etc. I have told the water co that I am "renewing" my borehole pump system because they are adamant that they are coming!!!

 

Does all that make sense..... basically they want to meter a water supply from them that may (or may not) have been supplying my property for the past ten years!!

[j and H]

i would also make sure , when the splitterupper, fitted a dividing connector, he never ran any pipework to your land….the drop off in pressure would have nothing to do with the borehole, as the two water supplies, your bore hole and the main..will come from two different sources, but if there was a leak in the pipe, and it was on your land….i am not sure how that would pan out

[shepie]

I had a water supply connected to our last piece of land , for seven years we used water but the meter didn't work so never had a bill !
Just before we sold it I had them come round to change the meter , I explained that I had just started using water as I had been using roof water previously and noticed the meter didn't work
He laughed and said he wished he had one like that at home ha ha , no he didn't let me keep the old one
How will they prove you have had water for ten years even if they do find the pipe and put a meter on it
Can't you just say you found the pipe and would now like to use that rather than the borehole then you can fix up the borehole and have both

[happymanoftheworld]

Hi John and Helen --- I confused you but it is hard to put without my ending up in jail....... The borehole might just never have been running and the mains water supply was split up at the farmhouse into four different supplies - one to each new steading building and one might just perhaps possibly maybe have by accident left going into my land and my caravan and my field troughs.... now I am NOT saying that is what happened but it is just possible---- He-he 

[happymanoftheworld]

Oh and Shepie.... yes that is correct it is very hard to prove and guess what..... as of Wednesday my borehole will be working and flowing all directions..... but it is funny if you imagine someone could ---- and I am not saying IS, just could, be sneaking out at midnight across two field and fences with torch, turning supply on, filling bottles and immersion heater, sneaking back out across two field and turning back off in case they came the next day..... they might have been doing that for the past week. Thanks goodness it's weekend as they don't come out Sat and Sun so if someone is doing something like that then they can have a rest until Monday morning when it might be switched off again!!!!

[j and H]

 ..agh..got it 

[adrian007]

I'm a 'lamb'. Didn't notice before :-)

[happymanoftheworld]

  B****r!!!! Now my pump has broken ---- motor burnt out. Phoned for replacement motor and Grundfos dealer said about £200 but didn't phone back to confirm so I phoned them again...... £400 PLUS!!!!! Are they kidding. Does anyone know where I can get a Grunfos motor reconditioned?

[adrian007]

http://www.ebay.co.u...id=697407429276

[happymanoftheworld]

Hi Lamb ---- sadly it is a borehole pump motor and all the ebay ads on that link are above ground pumps..... but thanks anyway - I don't know how much the scrap value of them are but £400 for new motor is ridiculous in the extreme!

[happymanoftheworld]

Found borehole pump reduced from new price over £300 down to £126!!! Fitted it but had to also fit £100 osmosis kit because aluminium content very high - over recommended doseage - and my memory is already bad!

 

Two days after fitting the inspector came as expected to see if I was using mains water meaning water meter! He was happy that I am using my own water. Another obstacle overcome!!!

[Sunnysouthdevon]

i see previously you were on about getting a pump that comes on automatically, you will need the pressure vessel to create negative pressure so that a sensor in the pump picks up on this and pumps the water, you will also have to make sure your pump has got a cut off should your bore hole ever dry up , this will prevent the pump burning out. I use used to use grundfos pumps all the time in my trade, heating engineer, but in the last couple of years they have dramatically gone down hill in quality and there bronze(potable water) pumps are ridiculously priced and much cheaper options are far superior