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[shepie]

So has anyone on this forum gained PP to build a dwelling in the last 6 years ?

[j and H]

i know of two

[shepie]

Are they people on here that have followed f2f ?

[j and H]

not sure if they are members on here, one told me about the book and has now obtained pp for a dwelling, the other did the same thing with chickens, lots of the things

[shepie]

Ok thanks that's what I was thinking , a bit like kchally done it their own way
I only have a list of failures

[Sunnysouthdevon]

Maybe you could be first on the list shepie.....

[Sunnysouthdevon]

Oh are you going market on Saturday?

[shepie]

No that's not what I am thinking , no market for now hoping for direct purchase

[Sunnysouthdevon]

Ok no probs

[adrian007]

We will succeed :-)

[Greenbeast]

I have faith we will but we are not really F2F in the strictest sense as we have gone straight for PP instead of PD for barn

[Sunnysouthdevon]

Have kchally not got permission?

[j and H]

i think the book can only be regarded as a guideline, due to different ways different councils act,

its a stepping stone, the real hard work starts once you have the PD in place….

[Greenbeast]

If you're talking strict 'barn-style' F2F, then perhaps it just isn't practical.
It always seemed like a massive expense before a business had even a glimmer of success.

As for 3 years temp agri planning, obv that's been done for decades, my parents got their permission 20 years ago on a semi intensive pig unit

[shepie]

I think it is possible but can't find anyone who has succeeded
Not sure most realise just how much it costs and how many animals you need to meet the man hours to just get 3 years temp that way

[Greenbeast]

No indeed. We have spent a lot of money. Quite worrying at times, but things are on the up, we've not even completed 6 months of meat trading yet, so it's early days.

[j and H]

certainly is a few , depending on what you keep, 

i would estimate, a good £75k-£85k should get you on the way, once you have bought your land 

[Greenbeast]

agreed

[adrian007]

We think it's a bit more than that - probably land plus £125k... and 90 more k's of that need to be earned.

 

It's not so much the stuff you have to buy, it's paying for evrything prior to your turnover turning into profit.

[j and H]

a lot will depend on how you do things, for instance, my barn alone has seen me source the materials from £10.5k as a kit form,  to £4.75K buying direct, once i started really looking,

you can save hundreds, if not thousands on timber….depending on how much you need, for instance, i managed to find chestnut posts at awesome price, half of what was advertised by many, 

one builders supplier gave me a cash account..20% saved instantly….

 

there have been certain things, i thought i needed, when i really didn't, yet at the same time, there has been things needed, that where not in the budget..

 

it really pays to shop around, 

 

each set up will be different to someone else's , certain animals will cost more to buy, yet cheaper to feed…and not forgetting lady luck

only today seen me take delivery of what could be used for a sheep shelter, as a freebie…saving me a good £200...

 

i am gutted on missing out on this…a friend managed to get hold of a poly tunnel frame…18ft x 50ft…£60….now that is a bargain..right place right time, he just had to dismantle, which he did