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#1
Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:52
So now we have a competition between a wind turbine which is more eco-friendly and therefore beneficial for our children's future, and a generator. So please,. please, does anyone know what kind of generator(s) we should be considering if we wish to have at least one extra noisy, smelly one!! If you have one like that and are willing to sell it to us (or even loan it to us - LOL), please please would you let us know!
We fully believe that if we could find the right one, they might decide that a wind turbine is the lesser of two evils!!
#2
Posted 23 August 2012 - 21:14
we have two wind turbines to go up. each one is 400w, hope we have no complaints . did'nt realise that neighbours had a say in wind turbine siteing.
#3
Posted 23 August 2012 - 21:16
I have never understood people's objections to wind turbines for any reason let alone equine worries.Its a feeble excuse from people who should know and care more. If they can't ride past a turbine they probably should not be riding at all or should realise their horse is an animal and treat it as such.
Its wrong that an "official" body is allowed to move the goal posts to suit themselves/the nimby's. These people, your neighbours and the planners, are stopping you enjoying safely and affordably what is yours, I wonder if you could sue your neighbour for loss of earnings from the potential turbine?!?!
Will look at local auctions for a suitable nasty generator
#4
Posted 23 August 2012 - 21:36
#5
Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:56
However I would seriously consider ditching the wind turbines unless you are grid connected and are making money out of the excess production, I would strongly suggest a solar/diesel genny hybrid system if you are off grid. This is what we have here and it uses 3 litres of fuel a day, at red diesel prices that is £2.10 a day to run and we get all our hot water and heat hydroponic nutrient tanks for out of season salad production. If you run your washing machine/dishwasher only when the genny is on, then you have a decent load for the genny and avoid needing to pull big amounts of power from the precious batery stack voltage, run an exhaust gas heat exchanger and you have just harvested enough waste heat to have your hot showers for the day.
Not that I am anti wind turbines! I may add one to the system in the future but I have witness many many failings with them, I would certainly not want to be relying on one for too much, has hardly been any wind up here for a week now!
Just my opinion based on what I have read/experienced over my life, but I think carbon dioxide induced climate change theory is a pile of crap, and even if it was not, who is to say that we humans are not some clever idea mother nature dreamt up to release carbon deposits back into the atmosphere aka recycling, so that a new cretaceous era can begin? We are just ants.
All the best.
#6
Posted 24 August 2012 - 15:16
Using this has the added advantage that takeaways have to pay for the disposal of their oil as it is a waste product so will usually be happy to give it away for free. You will still need to buy some chemicals for the conversion but it will work out very very cheap. If you search the net you can find many ways to easily build your own equipment for refining cheaply as the commercially available systems tend to be overpriced for what they are. If you were to go down this route it is also probably worth you positioning the genny as close to your neighbour as possible but should you choose this I would hope that you would keep a close eye on the horses to ensure that it is not causing them any distress (and i'm sure you will as I closely follow your progress and am aware you hold animals in high regard, this note is more for others that may read this post).
#7
Posted 24 August 2012 - 20:25
#8
Posted 25 August 2012 - 16:28
Sorry I could give you any links directly to the required information but i have so much 'how to' information spread across so many hard drives that I may as well not have it for how long it takes to find, but I will try my best to locate the bio-diesel information and post links here as it will probably be very helpful to many with the rate that fuel prices are constantly rising.
#9
Posted 25 August 2012 - 17:03
Another point you may wish to consider for the longer term is that if you have spare land to grow rape seed, for little cost you can produce your own oil from this that requires no refining, only slight warming, to be used in many diesel engines. This however won't smell nowhere near as bad as using used oil from a takeaway but only costs a bit of currently unused land, seed and furtaliser, natural I hope, cheaper in both monetry and enviromental terms.
#10
Posted 27 August 2012 - 15:32
The great thing above doing this is that you only need to make sure your oil has been filtered, no hazardous chemicals necessary for creating the biodiesel. Bad side is that you do need to get your head around wiring up the tank selection valves, but if you do it yourself you can do it for about £!50.
Unfortunately biodiesel can gel up at cold temps as will veggie oil, so if you have a twin tank system you have the option to keep running without needing to run a blow torch over the high pressure lines/injectors.
It definately smells like a chip shop : ) If you know any lipo suction surgeons you could have a real interesting smelling fuel, I know of a guy who used to run his mercedes on biodiesel derived from human fat! Nice!
Have fun.
#11
Posted 27 August 2012 - 17:19
Incidentally, we have discovered that there are pd rights for one of the small wind turbines. Surely, they are likley to be noisier than a proper one as they are not made for 'commercial' use but just for 'private and personal' use and therefore not bound by the same rules and regulations?
#12
Posted 27 August 2012 - 21:36
I will be going this way to start
#13
Posted 28 August 2012 - 20:13
Bramble.
#14
Posted 14 September 2013 - 16:31
lister genset is the way to go,
a cs 1/ 6kva start o matic will run on straight veg oil or mixed,iv,e had a few getting rare now.
dont bother with trying to make bio diesel been there done that,very messy.
now run the hilux on 50/50 derv/rapeseed oil.
#15
Posted 30 November 2013 - 21:35
to make a genny noisy remove the exhaust, slacken the tappets a little.
chip oil/bio diesal i found hard to source the oil as comercial companies hoover it all up
wind turbines are a permitted development up to a certian level. think itts high is goverend by distance frpm boundary and blade sweep size i think was max 3 meters
#16
Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:01
OK - so what can one do to a Lister genny to make it less noisy and smelly!? LOL
Also, I am having real trouble in getting mine started on these cold mornings despite using Easy Start. Any suggestions as to what can be done?
#17
Posted 20 April 2014 - 22:13
OK - so what can one do to a Lister genny to make it less noisy and smelly!? LOL
Also, I am having real trouble in getting mine started on these cold mornings despite using Easy Start. Any suggestions as to what can be done?
If you havn't got an oil priming hole to aid cold weather starting, you can instead just crank the handle about 25 times at a moderate pace and this should give you enough fuel to get you going.
#18
Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:41
Use a blow torch on the air intake, it will start MUCH MUCH easier! Not so close that you melt your air filter, although it's likely a steel element. As Bolow says, crank it a few times with your b torch on the intake then just go for it. In the future, find an engine with a glow plug if possible!
B.
#19
Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:43
Ps when I had my lister CS on veg oil, the glow plug (retrofitted) packed in a few times and this trick saved my shoulder joint, it works great. Let us know if it works for you.
B.