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We are just about to order a 5.7 tonne feed silo which is 17ft high and which will be fixed to a concrete base of 3m square. We need this for our pig feed, which at present is delivered in bags. It is getting rather silly the amount of bags which are being delivered, and we will be able to reduce the cost per kilo if it is delivered loose and blown into a silo.
Will we need planning permission to put this up or should we just do it. We are only on 6 acres.
Thanks
KChally
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Feed Silo - do we need permission?
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KChally
, 13 Jul 2011 23:08
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 06:03
Cornish Gems
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We would not recommend that you erect a silo without permission. There is no way it can be classed as being mobile. However, as it is for foodstuffs, you might be able to get permission under Class B development, but we will read up about it to confirm later. We have not made a big effort to study Class B as it does not apply to our particular circumstances.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:12
Cornish Gems
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We have checked out the The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 1995 and we have found the following,
Class B Development on units of less than 5 hectaresPermitted developmentB. The carrying out on agricultural land comprised in an agricultural unit of not less than 0.4 but less than 5 hectares in area of development consisting of— (b)the installation of additional or replacement plant or machinery.
So it looks as if you can put in a 28day notice provided all other aspects are covered, you can down load a form or apply on line through the Planning Portal, just check out your LPA site for directions.
CG
Class B Development on units of less than 5 hectaresPermitted developmentB. The carrying out on agricultural land comprised in an agricultural unit of not less than 0.4 but less than 5 hectares in area of development consisting of— (b)the installation of additional or replacement plant or machinery.
So it looks as if you can put in a 28day notice provided all other aspects are covered, you can down load a form or apply on line through the Planning Portal, just check out your LPA site for directions.
CG
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:21
Cornish Gems
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Meant to add this link Town and country planning
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 22:24
KChally
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Thanks CG.
I think we will just put it up and take the rap when it comes. Im sure if we put in a 28 day notice the planners will just make it difficult. At the end of the day we are a pig farm and need to have these things so we can keep our costs down lol.
KChally
I think we will just put it up and take the rap when it comes. Im sure if we put in a 28 day notice the planners will just make it difficult. At the end of the day we are a pig farm and need to have these things so we can keep our costs down lol.
KChally
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 21:12
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You will be asked to submit a full planning application if you go ahead without the 28 day notice.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 13:37
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I think you may be better off to just put it up. Once it is up it is far more difficult for them to do something and as I am going through the enforcement process in the Crown Court as we speak, I know that even then it is difficult for them to enforce.
If you consider it to be permitted development, then all they can really do is decide if it is or if it isn't. If they decide it isn't then you put in a certificate of lawful development £35 quid ish, if they refuse that, you appeal it, (free for you).
The previous owners of this farm put up a huge agricultural building with out any permission and all the lpa could do was measure it and determine that it fulfilled the criteria of permitted development. If he had not just put it up then it would have been a massive problem with landscaping and other issues, etc.
It is for you to make the decision - really it depends how visible you are and how likely someone is to report it. Piglet
If you consider it to be permitted development, then all they can really do is decide if it is or if it isn't. If they decide it isn't then you put in a certificate of lawful development £35 quid ish, if they refuse that, you appeal it, (free for you).
The previous owners of this farm put up a huge agricultural building with out any permission and all the lpa could do was measure it and determine that it fulfilled the criteria of permitted development. If he had not just put it up then it would have been a massive problem with landscaping and other issues, etc.
It is for you to make the decision - really it depends how visible you are and how likely someone is to report it. Piglet
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 17:58
KChally
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As we are only on 6 acres does this 28 day notice apply to us anyway? For a certificate of lawfulness I thought it had to be 4 years without complaint? We are visible and Im sure the nosey neighbours would have something to say about it. On such a small acreage Im not sure that we have any permitted development rights?
Everything we have done in the past has been thru full planning permission, although thinking back the LPA only charged us £50 for the barn application not the full amount. Does that mean then it was permitted development?. I really get quite confused with all of this, thats why we used a planning consultant for our temporary mobile home.
KChally
Everything we have done in the past has been thru full planning permission, although thinking back the LPA only charged us £50 for the barn application not the full amount. Does that mean then it was permitted development?. I really get quite confused with all of this, thats why we used a planning consultant for our temporary mobile home.
KChally
