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hello.
i'm just getting some figures together to show to a potential lender ( a family member).
we havn't found the land yet, so its hard to say what the figures are. however i want to be able to say...
if we need to build a barn it will cost this much...
hear are the figures for each possible enterprise....
if anyone can save me the time i would be very happy.
can anyone tell me,( just for a general idea) the costs of a steel framed barn ( can it be 465 square meters floor plan or does that area have to include the yard?)
thanks.
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costing of barn
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spaceship
, 16 May 2011 09:58
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:23
Cornish Gems
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Spaceship welcome to the forum, firstly the 465 square meters will include the yard as it is the total amount you can apply for under GDPO, yoou can apply for more under full PP if you wish.
The cost of a barn is dependent upon many things, your location ie for delivery, local suppliers, the type of barn ie is it going to be fully clad, half clad with block wall and of course the overall size, there are many suppliers around who will give you a ball park figure when you decide upon the type and size of barn.
As for the figures for each possible enterprises we suggest you have a read of Dave's books.
All the best for your future endevours.
CG
The cost of a barn is dependent upon many things, your location ie for delivery, local suppliers, the type of barn ie is it going to be fully clad, half clad with block wall and of course the overall size, there are many suppliers around who will give you a ball park figure when you decide upon the type and size of barn.
As for the figures for each possible enterprises we suggest you have a read of Dave's books.
All the best for your future endevours.
CG
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:44
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465 is the size of the barn not the yard area,you can also add an overhang to increase the area above 465 that you can use as a feed passage for example (but do not state that as obviously it is not going to be used to house animals !!!)Spaceship welcome to the forum, firstly the 465 square meters will include the yard as it is the total amount you can apply for under GDPO, yoou can apply for more under full PP if you wish.
The cost of a barn is dependent upon many things, your location ie for delivery, local suppliers, the type of barn ie is it going to be fully clad, half clad with block wall and of course the overall size, there are many suppliers around who will give you a ball park figure when you decide upon the type and size of barn.
As for the figures for each possible enterprises we suggest you have a read of Dave's books.
All the best for your future endevours.
CG
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:13
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465 is the size of the barn not the yard area,you can also add an overhang to increase the area above 465 that you can use as a feed passage for example (but do not state that as obviously it is not going to be used to house animals !!!)
sorry i got a bit confused there. one person said the 465 can be the size of the barn the other said it had to include the yard too.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 12:30
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Spaceship, if you have read Dave's book you will note that on pp20 item 5 it clearly says 'The ground area of any works or structures must not exceed 465 square meters.' clear this means the barn and any yard around it.
However this has always been a point of arguement on this forum and I think you will find it will depend upon your LPA.
CG
However this has always been a point of arguement on this forum and I think you will find it will depend upon your LPA.
CG
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 18:03
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when you submit a 28day notice and provide a plan it shows the dimensions of the barn not the yard,you can excavate any area as large as you like under permitted developement as needed for agricultural practice.A good friend has just got a 28 day notice on a maximum area plus overhang the site was excavated cut and filled levels altered.400 ton of stone dug on site and used to create hardstanding turning storage areas banks etc all prior to applicationSpaceship, if you have read Dave's book you will note that on pp20 item 5 it clearly says 'The ground area of any works or structures must not exceed 465 square meters.' clear this means the barn and any yard around it.
However this has always been a point of arguement on this forum and I think you will find it will depend upon your LPA.
CG
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 14:49
che
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Hi Spaceship,
Is it that we need to refer to the yard as hardstanding which does not need permission to overcome this issue. You may have to include the track / acess in your calculation or at least the first 25 yards from the road, certainly SD had a major problem over this. Dont worry about conflicting views on here, problem is in the interpretation of the law planners and consultants interpretation will vary as well.
I would go for the big un on the basis you can allways scale it back easier than you can increase it. Resubmission will not cost anything as long as time is not to important.
PS are you looking for land on this planet or further afield
no planning resrictions out there at present but this wont last forevever
Is it that we need to refer to the yard as hardstanding which does not need permission to overcome this issue. You may have to include the track / acess in your calculation or at least the first 25 yards from the road, certainly SD had a major problem over this. Dont worry about conflicting views on here, problem is in the interpretation of the law planners and consultants interpretation will vary as well.
I would go for the big un on the basis you can allways scale it back easier than you can increase it. Resubmission will not cost anything as long as time is not to important.
PS are you looking for land on this planet or further afield
no planning resrictions out there at present but this wont last forevever
che
